Interview with Cai Anxuan, producer of The Pioneer Women, a magazine: I want everyone to represent himself

Ms. Tsai, a veteran Taiwanese producer for Time magazine, said she was interviewed by Ms. Zeit. You may not know her name, but if you care about international news, you'll probably have seen her work for a long time.

6-year-old immigrant to the United States, 28 years old. A graduate of Northwestern University's journalism department, he is a senior producer for Time Magazine. He has produced the Pioneer Women(FIRSTS) series and the 2017 "Silence Breakers" video. She is particularly concerned about politics, gender, immigration, and vulnerable ethnic groups. As an Asian, as a woman, at a young age, he became a senior producer in the international media, and it wasn't easy.

"Taiwanese-Americans, journalists, documentary filmmakers, Time magazine veteran producers," she wrote on Instagram. While caring for the world, she is also proud of Taiwan's identity. Asked why, she said so. "Because as an immigrant from Taiwan, I have understood since childhood that I am an "outsider" in mind. 」

FIRSTS, Pioneer Women, more than 50 women's stories

At the invitation of the American Association in Taiwan, we interviewed Diane, who returned to Taiwan with her work. She has long hair, big eyes and a smile, and simple Chinese. The 28-year-old is a senior producer for Time magazine, curating several documentaries and audio-visual reports.

This time she brought back to Taiwan, "Pioneer Women" (FIRSTS), produced by Time magazine in 2017. The production team was originally just three small female members. Speaking of heart,' Diane said, she said, because they were inspired by Clinton's 2016 party primary nomination.

This is a very historic moment and gives us inspiration. But after Hillary's defeat in 2017, we thought it was more time to start working on the topic. Because there are many people who need to know more about women's stories, we decided to identify the pioneers in these different fields.

Interviews with more than 50 outstanding women in various fields in the United States, from Hillary, Oprah, Ellen DeGeneres, to the late soul singer Aretha Franklin (the first singer inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame) last year, and Sylvia Earle, the first female oceanographer at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

The list is very exciting, from politics, music, sports, art, science, every woman's profile is very clear. Diane says her most impressive story is by oceanographer Sylvia Earle.

In the film, Earle recalls that male scholars at the time would be calledoceanographers,"but as female oceanographers, we are always called "sea-floor babes", "underwater babes", or "seafloor troublemakers". (The women, we were aqua-babes, aqua-chicks, aqua-naughties.)

"We are often asked strange questions, such as , "How do you use a hairdryer at the bottom of the sea?" Or "You can't wipe your lipstick when you go into the water," but we see them as an opportunity to open up a conversation with the public. 」

Diane commented: "She had a lot of sexism at the time. For example, there is no hairdryer under the ocean, how do you blow your hair? I'm curious about how she deals with the media, but she is using this advantage as an opportunity to re-educate readers. Instead of letting this derision down her, Earle tried to awaken the attention paid to female oceanographers. In those days, it was not easy. 」

More than 50 female pioneers have been filmed, and Diane analyses that most of the women's problems are due to "they don't have a role model" and "can't balance work and life." She also mentioned the first Asian-American senator, Keiko Kono:

"If I had her story to hear when I was a child, I would be a politician if I couldn't get it right now. But because I don't see such a model, it's a pity that it didn't come true. 」

As a Taiwanese: I understand from an early age, as an outsider's mood

We're actually better off, as a Taiwanese-American woman, how her multi-intertwined identity affects the way she sees things.

When I chose to become a journalism student, I started out only out of personal interest. Because I want to understand, through the news, can we understand different life patterns? Also, I'd love to get in touch with different people. But I would say, as I get deeper into journalism. I began to get drawn to women's stories. And especially the stories of diversity.

"Because they remind me of my own experience as an anoff. 」

"When I was six years old, I immigrated to the United States from Taiwan. This is a very subconscious level of change. Because I grew up, I spent a lot of time observing other people's behavior, and I was very nervous about my own every move. I kept thinking about how I could be part of this group. 」

We talked about Andrew Yang, who announced his participation in the Democratic presidential primary, and about the AOC and Alden, who, as a Taiwanese woman, seem to have a common identity on the road. Taiwanese need the recognition of Taiwanese, and women need women's identity. If there is no role model, it is like no root.

As she grew older, Diane also found herplace by helping people tell stories. The identity of Taiwanese-American women helped her understand the interviewees better. Because it's easier to be able to emnumber, outsiders have stories that are hard to get into the heart of society.

As a media worker, I wonder if she has ever encountered gender bias in the workplace. (Extended reading: How far is gender equality?) Every country has a "glass ceiling" that is hard to break through .

"I would say I'm actually lucky, like my supervisor, who was TIME's first female editor." 」

"I feel probably very small, microscopic things. Diane recalls. Because filming is a fairly technical work, people tend to assume at first that "I don't know what I'm talking about" based on gender and age stereotypes. In addition, it is easy to think, "My looks (young Chinese women) do not match the way I should be in this position." 」

"So sometimes I still need to be a little authoritarian or arbitrary to make people think I'm a professional. 」

As Diane delved into the media industry, she realized that the limitations of her identity could be a turning point. "Then I realized that I could use the experience of identity to bring out a new narrative perspective. That's what I value. 」

I'm very happy to be able to tell how people express their identity. And I want people to represent themselves. (I am so so excited to tell that people can reclaim their s and be able to their srlis)

Talk about the smeToo campaign: All women's voices should be heard

In addition to "Woman in the Vanguard," she also filmed The Silencer of the Year.

Ask about the details of the production. "You know, every year in Time magazine, you're shooting People of the Year to look back at important events," she said. That year was the "MeToo" campaign. We shoot in a much the same way as FIRSTS, but in the end it's a different way to do it, because we want to be able to record all the women's voices, and we cut the whole movie into one and put it in all the women's voices. 」

When we look back at these big projects, it's clear that women are breaking their silence and telling the truth. We let all the women speak out and let us know that these women can speak loudly and are powerful.

Culture and identity are important things.

After the interview, Diane was followed by several speaking tours in Tainan, Kaohsiung and others. She's not forgetting to make a film. The other day, she posted on her instagram to take a photo of the tribe of the Row bay tribe in Pingdong. She posted on another post that read:

It's incredible, I've seen "Pioneer Women" screened in different cities at several events in Taiwan. I used to wish I could one day return to Taiwan for work-related reasons. But I didn't expect this day to come so soon.

It also reminds me that at the end of the interview, she said she wanted to leave it to women who worked hard for their dreams: "When I first started working, I wasn't really sure what kind of story I wanted to make." So, try it all, don't be discouraged if you haven't found the only important dream yet. And don't think your work isn't good enough, because you're just going to keep work on it. 」

Postscript to the interview

As a journalism graduate, after interviewing Diane, I often think that it's sad to hear without the model, and even these FIRSTS often don't answer questions about life. Should I be directly angry in the face of harassment? Should I have the courage to choose the former in the workplace and in my family?

There is no right answer to life choices.

But instead of following a role model, the other layer behind it means that as you make life decisions, you will also be able to be the role model of others. Looking at their deeds, we marched together. Diane herself became our model during the interview. Let's see, love journalism, you can shine.